The Widney / Udny Family of Scotland and Ireland

Copyright 2014, 2020
Loretta Lynn Layman, Author of "Barony of Lynn", The Scottish Genealogist,
Vol. LVII No. 1, The Scottish Genealogy Society, Edinburgh (March 2010)
Lynneage @ comcast . net

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Origins

Generation 1

Generation 2

Generation 3

Generation 4

Generation 6

Generation 7a

Generation 7b

Note: The lineage from Generation 1 to Generation 4 is believed but not absolutely proven to be a direct lineage, but they are doubtless of the same family.  Generations 4-5 are proven by original documentation of the period to be a direct paternal relationship.  Generations 5-7 almost certainly represent a direct lineage given that the man in Generation 7 sold the property owned and passed down by Generation 4.

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Generation 5

James Widney II of Killymurry

JAMES WIDNEY II, also known as James Widney the younger, was born between 1690 and 1700 in Ireland, possibly in Killymurry, County Monaghan.  He was the son of James Widney I of Killymurry.  He married Ann Carlisle, possibly the daughter of William Carlisle and Elizabeth Campbell baptized on 3 July 1709.1/,2/ 

Carlisle Family Tree

In 1710, William Carlisle was a ruling elder in the Armagh Presbytery of the Presbyterian Church of Ireland.3/  A Carlisle family history reports that the family lived in Newry, County Down and owned the County Down mansion of Ashgrove2/.  Ashgrove lies directly on the opposite side of the Newry River from County Armagh.  As reported in Presbyterian records, however, William Carlisle was not in the Down Presbytery but the Armagh Presbytery.

         

Some confusion does exist concerning the precise places of residence of persons in Newry Parish.  While the town and parish of Newry both lie primarily in County Down, they also lie partly in County Armagh.  In fact, no less than twelve townlands of Newry Parish are in County Armagh.4/  It might be that Ashgrove was, at least at this time, a second residence of the Carlisles.  Again, William Carlisle was a member of the Armagh Presbytery.

On 11 May 1724, James Widney II entered into a deed of marriage contract with his father, "James Widney the Elder", which recites that "James Widney the younger" would marry Ann Carlisle,  receive from his father one-half of the townland of Killymurry, and receive from Ann's uncle Thomas Donaldson a marriage portion of 50 pounds sterling.1/   If Ann was a daughter of William Carlisle, then William must have been deceased when Ann married.  The Carlisle family tree does not include his date of death.

1724 Deed as Memorialized in 1744 and Registered in 1745                                 Transcript

1/	Republic of Ireland, Registry of Deed Grantors, Book 121, p 254-55, Registered No. 82844
2/	Collections for a History of the Ancient Family of Carlisle, London (1822), pp. 221-223
3/	Records of the General Synod of Ulster, from 1691 to 1820, Volume I: 1691-1720, General Assembly of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland, Belfast (1890), p. 188
4/	http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/MAPS/NewryTownlands.htm

Killymurry later passed to John Widney, the only known child of James and Ann (Carlisle) Widney :

i.	JOHN WIDNEY, b. 1725-1730 in Killymurry, County Monaghan, Ireland; d. unknown.

For a complete record of the Widney family of Ireland through the end of the 18th century, the evidence of their Scottish roots, and a discussion of Widney origins as told by Dr. George Wilds Linn, see :

  

Widney/Woodney/Udny

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Conclusion

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